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Shamangineer / Mapping the mind

Discussion in 'THC+ Episodes' started by rani, Feb 8, 2019.

  1. rani

    rani Active Member

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    I really wanted to start a thread on this one as it has been, in my opinion, one of the best episodes of THC bar none!

    So, hats off to both Shamangineer and Greg for putting this together. It must have been so challenging to cohere a 'super-topic' into a meaningful discussion. Thanks to both of you! You did a great job.

    It's tricky to know where to start as you covered so much, I'm just going to drop a couple of observations to get things rolling.

    Firstly, 'plasma beings' have been referenced so often in history, in literature and in science it becomes difficult to dismiss. I recall but can't find reference to an early (1920's Italian I think?) radio engineer who deeply regretted the impact of his work on the sylphs as he said that radio waves were sullying their environment.

    I dropped a quote on sylphs from Alexander Pope's 'Rape of the Lock' on the comments page. That poem is interesting because, in the the preamble, Pope makes reference to the Rosicrucians, which sets off alarm bells that it's not just a bawdy poem.

    [totally subjective hippy opinion]

    In my own experience of the sylphs, I know that they are intelligent beings and they can interact with you given the right conditions and intentions. I think you guys nailed it when you said our atmosphere is kind of like an ocean. The sylphs in my area certainly behave like whales in pods. I think that that can also 'shapeshift' in a way. They can cohere in lots of different configurations, and they can also 'wear' atmospheric particulates like cloaks. This allows them to 'paint' images for us to see if we are able. In some way, they can draw from our conciousness to find culturally appropriate material. This might account for the 'same same but different' displays across various accounts.

    I do chafe against Trevor James Constable's label of 'sky critters' for these magnificent beings, but that could also be because I'm an incorrigible hippy. : )

    [/totally subjective hippy opinion]
     
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    I think that a portion of apparitions people see associated with hauntings are bioplasma manifesting from a disembodied entity. One reason why hauntings tend to be associated with night is that it is easier to see the light given off from the bioplasma in dim conditions. One way of thinking about this in the dimensionally projective sense is that these entities are like the apple in the video below projecting into a lower dimension.

    I believe similar dynamics are at play with the plasma beings, albeit with some mix of gelatinous matter, metallic blood and plasma bodies based on the one encounter of the third kind I know of. This may also play into the gooey flesh rains that have been described by Charles Fort in a form of atmospheric beaching of a larger plasma being. Since these beings seem capable of modifying the local gravity field it would also stand to reason that there could be optical effects from this as well.

    I'm pretty sure he smoked a big fattie before discussing this. ;)
     
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    Here is an interesting video related to above discussing imagining ten dimensions:

    Makes one wonder about the symbolism of Dune. . .
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    Then there is Burkhard Heim, a former Nazi scientist who was nearly blind and deaf, and lost both hands in an explosion during the war working on still undisclosed experiments. He had a rare surgery performed to have some of his forearm muscle attached and skin grafted to give him tubular pincers from the remains of his forearm in order to give him some control and tactility.

    In this condition he developed a 12 dimensional theory and was called Germany's Hawking. His theory closely aligns with the description from the 10 dimensional video as Heim stated that above the ninth dimension "only god knows". Heim never had any of his books translated from German, but I understand that there is a physicist who has picked up his work who publishes in English. Here is a little video about his theories. Enjoy!
     
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    HOW DO YOU FIND ALL THIS AMAZING STUFF?

    The video on Heim just helps SO MUCH. Thank you! I'm an ex-game dev, so it's talking my language! It seems to give a good framework for stuff like channeling (accessing system files) and the non- linear nature of time.

    Geeze. I have to admit I really struggle with the dimensionality beyond the 4D. I've been reading the Octavo in which Pete Carroll does a pretty good job describing the hypercube, but my B+ well-done-for-trying non-science brain just rebelled past a certain level of the maths he describes. I've been trying to fold my understanding of it into the way Steiner talks about the various ethers and the shapes they form by their nature. Is there a connection or am I totally on the wrong track?
     
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    Not at all, I want to look at Steiner's work in more detail myself, but have found related information a bit vague and difficult to parse the terminology. I think you might get more from Paul Laviolette's subquantum kinetics.

     
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    Does Heim's theory also support the notion of some kind of 'akashic record' or is that stretching the analogy?

    I found a useful crib on Steiner's ether work in this Trevor James Constable book :
    https://www.bookdepository.com/Hidden-History--Rain-Engineering-and-UFO-Reality/9781585091485

    chapter 17 is an excerpt from another book called "The etheric formative forces in Cosmos, Earth and Man" by Guenther Wachsmuth. It's a really great summary.

    The way everything interconnects and blends is a help and a hinder by turns. As soon as I start thinking I'm making sense of it, it slips off my tongue again. Like the connections between electromagnetism, plasma and the etheric body.

    I'm also noodling around with a theory about red light / infrared / astral plane & etheric bodies, but I'm want to listen to the latest (synchronistic) THC on light before I advance my thoughts : )
     
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    Not a stretch at all.
     
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    I'm looking forward to checking out that LaViolette vid...

    In the meantime, that crib from Steiner I mentioned states : Of 7 etheric forces, 4 reveal themselves in our space-and-time processes of our phenomenal world. Warmth ether, light ether, chemical (or sound ether) and life ether.

    Warmth and light are expansive and act centrifugally. Chemical and life ether draw in, their action is suctional and centripetal. The polarity of these two groups is the ultimate elemental principle at the bottom of all natural phenomenon (according to Steiner)

    The particular shapes that they form are - warmth - spherical, light (a transverse oscillation) describes the figure of a triangle. Chemical ether describes a half-moon shape. Life ether is the the most evolved ether, and in it's form building tendency, when it can exert it's effect unhindered in substance, leads to square shapes, expressed, for instance in crystalising salt.

    Space is interpenetrated by waves produced by the chemical ether, which, in the manner of chladni dust figures, dissolve and unite substances.

     
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    Shamangineer - you mentioned that a lot of our organs have neuronic bundles... I also wanted to point out hair as an essential part of our sensory perception / consciousness. Many religions hold having long hair as a part of the faith (sikhs for example and the rishi knot). They view it as both a sensory and an energy collector.

    The sampson and delilah story also points to hair as being a source of strength to the human organism. There are also apocryphal tales of the US military using indian trackers during WWII, who lost their powers after being forced into 'military haircuts'. It is also said that Genghis Khan forced the conquered Chinese to cut their hair and wear bangs as a sign of subjugation, and also to block sunlight to the pineal gland in order to make them more docile.

    And finally... : )

     
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    When Roger Penrose was on the Joe Rogan some time ago, as was mentioned in the mapping the mind episode, he was talking about micro-tubules as the potential source for consciousness, or at least if I got it right, like an antennae for it.

    For some reason, this reminded me of an anecdote mentioned during an interview Wilcock had with one of his closest insiders Pete Peterson, who is like Q in James Bond. Anyway, he mentioned how the fascia played in important role in how energy is networked through the body.

    And that clicked with another article that made the scientific rounds in 2018 regarding how scientists found a new organ that was right under their nose the whole time. They termed it Interstitium, even though it already had a name (fascia is the word Pete used).

    Now that I'm cooking fish, I guess it reminded me of the white lines between the red meat. And given the similarity with how mycelium evolves and transmits info & nutrients, it only brings up more questions :rolleyes:

    PS: Unfortunately, I don't have Gaia anymore to share that episode with Pete, but it's actually on the show called Disclosure.
     
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    Quite interesting about the fascia, I will keep an eye out for that.
     
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    I guess we’re learning more about ourselves every day.

    I found this paper which I think is very close to what Pete Peterson was talking in regards to the fascia being the medium thru which acupoints signals communicate.

    https://www.hindawi.com/journals/ecam/2011/260510/

    Another memory that comes up about Pete’s testimony was the use of potassium injections (for its electric charge) to track down whether stimulation of acupoints actually target the organs outlined by TCM. And it did. Which, if true, would be an empirical validation of acupuncture that should be reproducible.

    Edit: this Korean research seemed to confirm those results on a mouse.
     
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    In his book Cambridge-educated, quantum physicist John E. Best (PhD),communicates with his "dead" fiancée Marjorie through a medium. Marjorie was also a physicist. She explains to him the nature of the Astral World that she is living in.

    She says that the psyche (astral body) works through the electrical body (etheric body) which is a special intermediating nervous system. (p112/113)

    The electrical body is made up of electrons and positrons. These are balanced through the influence of the psyche. The psychical presence binds the electrical body to the physical body. The electrical body is stable when the psyche is present (p203).

    The electrical body is also called the electrical pattern body. It is an electrical flow system that is coupled to the physical nervous system and the psyche. Electrical current flows in closed loops through the electrical body like the closed path of the magnetic induction field (p215).

    The magnetic fields encircle strategic nerve fibres fitting them like a glove. The system operates both ways –

    1. The fourth dimensional psyche influences the physical nervous system.
    2. The physical nervous system influences the psyche.
    The main areas of flow are to the brain. The secondary areas of flow are to the solar plexus (p215). In the astral realm the psyche has 100 times more energy than the physical body (p217).

    The electrical body gradually disappears at death and the person lives on in their psyche (astral body) (p208).
     
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    Excellent find, I'm adding this to the bookshelf.
     
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    Yeah, I thought you'd like that. Nothing like a dead physicist to give you the straight skinny on the afterlife. : )

    Marjorie must have been one steely-ass woman to be able to cohere and communicate across the veil so clearly. Especially considering I don't think she had much of a spiritual practice before death, and most teachers claim this is a non-negotiable in being able to retain your sense of self.

    What she talks about is what the Eastern traditions describe in terms of various 'sheaths' to the body, each in even increasing frequencies and densities.

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    Some traditions actually take it up to about 14 sheaths, but maybe they are like the string theorists of the subtle body.

    I also wanted to throw in the notion that the bio-plasma beings as described by Trevor constable et al are as much *down here* and around us as they are *up there*. For example - light orbs. I think some of them are just plankton level organisms, but I also contend that some could be disembodied entities as you suggest.

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    Not so sure about the biblical connotations, but interesting none the less.
     
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    A War on Drugs, or War on the Mind?

     
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