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Joe Rogan Experience

Discussion in 'Wild Card Forum' started by enjoypolo, Aug 7, 2019.

  1. enjoypolo

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    JRE has become one the most popular podcasts out there, if not the most, and so for better or for worse, I think he deserves his own thread here.


    I’ll jump straight into one of his last episode from yesterday with Bernie Sanders, the US Democratic candidate 2016 & 2020.



    If I’m not mistaken, this is the third US 2020 candidate appearing on the JRE after Tulsi Gabbard (D) and Andrew Yang (D). Bernie’s interview is the shortest of all, barely exceeding one hour, which is a lot more than what they get on MSM/Networks on TV.

    Personally, I like what they dig into, healthcare crisis in US and massive corruption by Big Pharma and the Billionaire Boys Club; work precarity and education (free tuition and student-debt pardon); broken/corrupt criminal justice system (cannabis legalization; private prison system), and though it was crumbs, even a tiny alien question at the very end.

    Personally, and this is only my two cents, I feel as though Bernie, while a good hearted man is stuck in the Old World of doing things.

    His ideas, while being good on the surfaces, some are even commendable, still remain within this boxed paradigm.

    Free tuition is a great example, I get the premise and the importance of diplomas to find work, but it doesn’t address the fundamental issue of the worth of college education nowadays.
    Non-holistic education might as well be purged, since it is so narrowed down and reductionist, so why bother?

    Legalizing cannabis at the Federal level is a good start, but what about other substances? The prohibition paradigm itself is futile and based on the premise that these substances are only burdensome, but could/should be tolerated.

    So that’s my criticism of Sanders’ programme. With the situation we’re facing, we need holistic thinkers, collaborative engagement and new paradigms, not just incremental changes on a collapsing house of cards.

    Because otherwise, you may as well be a stooge for the Deep State wearing a sheep’s clothing.
    Forgive me for my drowsy ramblings on politics.

    Still, it gives me hope that major candidates like him can openly discuss about massive corruption in the US.

    To make it fair, below are the other candidates episode.

    Tulsi Gabbard who delves deep into the military-industrial-complex:


    Andrew Yang on his platform that includes a UBI system:
     
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    it will be interesting when elon musk comes back on the show. that show has the most views so im sure he will be back. the last show he was talking about how he had so many ideas and they are probably ideas related with the stuff that is top secret. it would be cool if he talked about something like there are aliens giving him this brain implant technology.

    I wonder if hes heard of wes penre that would be funny to see what he would say about people thinking this is the end game where people turn into robots.
     
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    speaking of that this just came out
     
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    So taking bets on what Musks moniker will be now that he has gone full bond villian. . .Although I guess if he's just gone evil mad scientific industrialist you don't necessarily get a moniker.
     
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  5. enjoypolo

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    I’d go with the Manchurian Candidate :p:D No but seriously, I think people lost him with latest brain implants.
    It’s commercializing mk-ultra tool kit to self-shackle our minds. o_O
     
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    I enjoyed listening to this long conversation between Joe and Nick Bostrom, a philosopher who's become somewhat of an icon after his Simulation theory became so parroted by the mainstream (partly cause Elon Musk loves to talk about it). I remember being a sucker for that a few years ago, and his book Super-Intelligence which makes paints a picture for AI development left quite an impression at the time.
    However, a lot of my former armor and viewpoints have been shed since then, so I was really looking forward to this conversation with an open-mind.

    At this point in time, I find Simulation Theory to be a fruitless basket: full of conjectures that are impossible to prove, yet can always be assigned a high-theoretical probability. After the interview, I am more convinced of this than ever before. It's unfortunate to see a smart guy like Nick Bostrom get stuck in cognitive dissonance loop faced to a knuckled-head like Joe. Frankly, I was surprised by how grounded Joe was in comparison.

    Once you come across observable, empirical work like the one done by Resonance Science team (Nassim and his colleagues), showing how all protons are entangled with one another time-space and scale invariant, and mathematically provable, as well making intuitive sense (atlhough that's a qualia), for me, the perspective shifts to Universe itself being a simulator which we're all part of (and co-creators of). But in that case, simulation becomes synonymous for quantum reality, and hence, I'd rather call that "reality".

    In comparison, Bostrom's conjecture of a computer-based simulation theory sounds to me like replacing Bearded Human-God dogma to a Computer-God theory (which interestingly, could feed in to the transhumanist agenda of worshipping AI Gods; although I give Bostrom the benefit of the doubt he's got good intentions)

    Anyway, that was my 2 cents on the episode. I think it's a waste time to be honest, and Joe's description of "paralysis by analysis" describes the conundrum of being stuck in this way of thinking best (oddly similar coincidentally to our favourite psyop: flat-earth..).
    ;)
     
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    This lady has balls of steels. She might be a bit out there (claims to be Pleiadian soul), but gotta love her rants. She even mentions Tiffany FitsHenry and her research. Lovin' it!
     
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    those two are on different wave lengths but it turned out to work well.
     
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    I'm a little way into the Roseanne show - shes a bit crazy balls - I'll keep going
     
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    Documentary filmmaker Jeremy Corbell and former US Navy Cmdr David Fravor talking UFO sightings (aka dropping *poisoned* red-pills)
    Though it does get me excited to see this reach mass-consciousness, finally.

    Do what thou wilt with it.

    EDIT: 49min mark: Cmdr Fravor telling the anecdote of messing with the UFO sighters..:rolleyes::cool:
     
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    Joe Rogan = Gate-keeper.

    Don't trust the POS..
     
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    Joe Rogan had Edward Snowden on his show today. And it doesn’t disappoint; a good red-pilling moment, pretty historic given the context of turmoil. First hour is mostly on his background, most of it which is in the book. 3 hours of stimulating conversation
     
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    will start listening to this one tonight, just jumped it up the playlist!
     
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    Of course he is, they all are.

    But he's opened more gates wider than you'll ever get in broadcast TV.
     
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    The thing about Snowden, is, he's a very down-to-earth techy nerd. I don't get the vibe that he's an asset to the cabal, like maybe Julian Assange gives off (even if I support Wikileaks, but that's a separate issue). Instead, Snowden seems more like a guy who came out of the darkness, and had tremendous integrity to come out on the other side, risking everything he had, not the least his fat pay-cheque; living in Hawaii and his life and relationships in jeopardy.

    I can easily forgive the fact that he doesn't believe in chemtrails, aliens coverups or any of the more esoteric stuff. Because the crux of the matter is, individual liberties are slipping away from beneath our feet at such a pace, and done so through technology, and you don't have to be a THC listener to realize that. And this is not just in the US, but globally.

    So the fact that a guy like Snowden exists, and shares his story, I think, will be more likely to inspire other people to listen and reflect, than a guy like David Icke who is too far down the rabbit hole, and whom many people just can't make the shift (for whatever reason).

    The other thing is, for truth seekers, his first-hand insights on these most-secretive agencies is like a gold-mine. As an example from the book, one thing he cites is, on the day of 9.11, he was living in Fort Meade (or at least was there), which is NSA's HQ, and one of the thing he describes is the pandemonium of all the agents being evacuated and sent home.

    In fact, he even talks about it with Joe, about how weird that was, and that most likely, should they have been asked to stay on that day, every NSA official would have done so out of a sense of duty and patriotism, which makes total sense (I mean these guys signed up to serve their countries after all).

    However, my perspective is, if this was a premeditated coup, what a great plan to 1) evacuate all personnel, especially the most crucial assets to identify potential attackers 2) create a massive MKUltra event, for the global audience, but also to the IC (Intelligence Community) to give a sense of guilt ("why didn't we foresee the attacks? How could we have let this happen?") Just to give the IC an extra edge dose of fanaticism to unilaterally support the Project For New American Century agenda (PNAC). I mean Snowden is the first one to admit, with great shame, that on 9.12 he was ready to enlist (and he did).

    Those are just my two-cents, but there's no doubt that it makes totally no-sense to evacuate your spooks in such a context (Snowden blames it on bureaucracy; I say there's at least a few hidden layers beneath it all)

    All this to say, I highly recommend reading his book, Permanent Record (link to ebook).
     
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    I haven't watched it yet, but oh boy, I know it's gonna be a good conversation between Joe and Paul Stamets!
    Fungi love!

    Edit: Here's the link for PS' bee saving citizen initiative:
    https://fungi.com/pages/bees




    18 mins: I'm glad Paul Stamets is addressing the cell-signal interference with biology.
     
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    Gordon white mentions it in his newsletter

    Bees, Though
    Paul Stamets is back on Joe Rogan. The appearance before this one is better but it's still Stamets so if you want to watch something over the weekend, you can definitely do worse.

    Toward the beginning of the episode, he mentions that the only issue for which there is 100% bipartisan support (in the US) is saving the bees. Somehow this is very telling.

    On the one hand, it's rather lovely. Related to a blog post earlier this week, it is lovely on the level of realising that even the people you find the most odious or deranged have at least one area of agreement, one thing over which they won't quibble.
     
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    Joe and Tulsi, this time with Jocko Willink, ex seals team commander.

    They go over very some key issues with the current archaic and broken system and the war machine; as well as Tulsi's on-going lawsuit with Google. Good stuff.