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Electrogravitics

Discussion in 'The Case For...' started by shamangineer, Apr 24, 2017.

  1. shamangineer

    shamangineer Well-Known Member

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    On a related note:
     
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    A few weeks ago, while reading Clarke's Childhood's End, I was reminded of a curious phenomenon: Time Dilation.
    My understanding is that it refers to the difference in Time-perception between two points of observation, such that if you were to travel round-way from Earth to a distant star system, you in your craft would only experience the duration of the voyage, while on Earth, much more time would have elapsed by the time you're back.
    A good representation of that is in the film Interstellar, and many other films.

    The image that flashed in my mind, curiously, while I was pondering on that, was a memory of when I used an electrical mixer to stir milk in large pots at one of my kitchen work. I would try to create a nice vortex on the middle, and if you look carefully, the liquid closest to the centre spins faster than does the milk on the edge. Time Dilation?

    It's probably not a good analogy (although as above, so below), but it stuck with me for whatever reason. It also makes you think twice about travelling off-planet.

    Of course, it made me curious whether this would still apply if one were to travel through wormholes ("instantaneous", or point-to-point travel vs linear, mechanical motion).

    PS: By the way, Dr Michael Salla's new book was just released a few days ago:
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    I've only read the third second installation of the series, involving US Navy, based mostly (but not exclusively) on William 'Bill' Tompkins testimony which was quite the investigation into the subject of German crafts; Navy involvement and subsequent formation of US-MIC SSP, including involvement of Navy military brass in the production of cultural icons like Star Trek, Outer Limits, Battlestar Galactica.
     
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    Several subjects here !
    1) The so called "time dilation" is a consequence of Einstein BS... So i do not care to think about it.
    2) A spinning fluid is a remarkable environment, as demonstrated by Schauberger.
    3) Michael Salla is figure that will be much remembered in the future...
    4) Probably all modern SciFi has ties with the SSP. In the case of the Star Trek, Gene Roddenberry was two hops away from people inside the SSP.
     
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/26/us/politics/ufo-sightings-navy-pilots.html

    I’ve noticed this article making the rounds on the Web, regarding a Navy pilot and his UFO encounters. Sems written by the same reporters who broke the Pentagon/AATIP story in Dec. 2017

    It’s very bare, and feels to me like parents helping a toddler walk (aka slow-drip disclosure)..

    The exception, being the description of a close mid-air encounter by the pilot looking like a “sphere enclosing a cube”.:cool:
    There are also mentions of classified “drone” programs. A clue to the riddle, no doubt.

    As usual, anything that involves Elizondo (Bigelow), or MIC characters should be taken with suspicion and backstage agendas.

    PS: Dr Salla just posted an article along the same lines.
    https://www.exopolitics.org/us-navy-pilot-reports-of-ufos-go-mainstream/
     
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    My people...I have finally found you......I just RE-read The Hunt for Zero Point (Nick Cook). There are a number of arguments against why UAP are not exotic tech, which I would like to discuss if anyone is interested?
     
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    hey man, you're in the right crowd to talk about these things ;)
     
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    Historical podcast episode in my view:
    Joe had Bob Lazar and Jeremy Corbell, director of the latest documentary on him.


    This Wilson memo is also mentioned in the podcast, as published by exopolitics:

    This is about secret access programs in the hands/control of MICs, rather then government/Pentagon officials, thus muddying the waters:

    https://www.exopolitics.org/the-adm...rate-reverse-engineering-of-alien-technology/

    Edit:
    I’m listening to this for a second time, and I think what’s most interesting about this event, is that it’s really hitting the zeitgeist of UFO/Disclosure Narrative, and like Jeremy said, its paving the door wide open for other people to come forward.
    I wonder if Bob is aware of the bigger picture surrounding this: SSP; off-Earth human colonies; Solar Warden, etc.

    I also found a bit ironic that Bob, discussing Nikola Tesla, thinks we wouldn’t be able to have large scale computing and electronics had he succeeded with his wireless system, due to interferences.
    I feel as though Bob, while having worked in this field, has his blind spots.
     
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    Trump is being asked by Tucker Carlson on UFOs, keeping it vague as usual, but hinting that anything is possible.
    I find it interesting that it so cryptic still, even with the creation of Space Force and all. At the same time, the footage captured by pilots displayed on Fox are the same images being parroted elsewhere, courtesy of Tom Delonge's To The Space Academy (mentored by none other than Podesta/AATIP-MIC factions).
    I don't think there's much to chew on, but I'm all ears anytime a sitting president's being asked that question :)
     
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    Yeeeah, I don't think Trump was ever on the disclosure docket, nor any president since perhaps JFK has been. If Trump were told anything he would simplify it down to some low-level thing he could grasp and blurt it out while forgetting half of his own half-assed rationalization - leaving about 25% of the facts that he thought he understood for folks to decipher. Even the best case scenario on that front would be a pretty dry well.
     
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    id do it if I could get down there yolo
     
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    https://www.rt.com/usa/464171-area-51-raid-million-people/

    Hate to beat a dead horse again, and yet I can't help but be curious to see this in the news so much.
    It's as if they wanted us to somehow be affected by it? Maybe this is an intended psy-op for a grand finale disclosure à-la-independence day?
    I mean even the US Air Force PR department is making public announcements at this point.
    Does it take a bunch of fools to storm a military base to get an official answer on covert technologies?

    I do think the best spot would be on the peaks, telescope in hand, smoking a joint, a view on the whole theatre.
     
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    I saw that in the news section almost a week ago in google when I typed in aliens and I was like that's cool whatever and ignored it. now its huge and funny how small things grow, I could have been a snowball effect like how everything on the internet works, if its something good it doesn't get many views but the stupid things just get bigger and bigger. maybe it was area 51 that posted that lol. or a guy that actually knows facts about the place.

    it does sound something like it was planned to do something, they would know people are poor these days and only some people could afford to go there. they would need some electric motorcycles to sneak up close, bullet proof vests, shields ect maybe rocket launchers. but if people had all that you know its not regular people and its staged.
     
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    Professor Simon Holland on antigravity:
     
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    http://www.ptep-online.com/2019/PP-...JRO9omqgqefEk3v3XQjd17zPfogdb063fY4ifz_e_sXuY

    A paper published by German Astrophysicist Hartmut Muller titled: Cosmological significance of Superluminality.
    Although its a scientific paper published in a journal with all the technical jargon, its quite legible.

    In short, its about how speeds exceeding the speed of light (c) are quite common on macro scales (galaxies, stars, quasars), but most interestingly, even within our human scale dimension.
    Also, speed of light as a constant is a postulate rather than derived by data, and thus, it may well change depending on the area of the universe it finds itself in, where some places with different density, light travels faster or slower. This makes sense, same as if a song from a speaker traverses through air and then water, speeds will vary according to the medium, or so I think?

    The paper mentions basic experiments on signal transmission using AM send/receivers where they “tunnel” songs from A to B and got speeds faster than c.

    The other thing this paper ties into is Global Scaling using certain mathematical constants like Euler’s number, as well as “stable perodical processes” like the proton-electron lifespan (which is said to never decay, thus makes for stable benchmark).
    I’ve mentioned Muller’s theory and his fascinating book on this thread before, and I still don’t quite know how it fits concretely with other perspectives. I will say though, its very similar to what Robert Edward Grant talks about in his Russelian-Musical (Sacred) Harmonic Universe model

    However, there’s no doubt in my mind of the significance of this research, since it seems scale invarient (or theory of fractal chain links that work across all scales)

    It’s like a hydrogen bomb dropping at distance, where I see the clouds forming, but the sound waves havent quite reached my ears yet.
     
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    Great paper, thanks for the link enjoypolo. Ludicrous speed is not so ludicrous.
     
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