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Electrogravitics

Discussion in 'The Case For...' started by shamangineer, Apr 24, 2017.

  1. shamangineer

    shamangineer Well-Known Member

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    I know it's anathema to many to post anything by David Wilcock, but this recent episode of Wisdom Teachings called "Natural Torsion fields and Antigravity (levity) delves deep in the science and fringe literature, including that of John W. Keely's works, O. Ed Wagner and others.
    The part about how trees communicate, and how sap flows reminds of me Schauberger's whole chapters dedicated to the subject as well (and Gerald Pollack)

    https://give.gaia.com/cjl9r6gab002j01qn05m579d0
     
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    Haha, I know I've been a bit negative on Wilcock in the past, but I want to be clear: I find Wilcock to be one of the best researchers in alternative science right now, his breadth and depth is remarkable and we share many sources of inspiration and data. I have read the Source Field Investigations and found it quite excellent. Where I pull the cord to get off is with the blue avians, which frankly seems to be due to him getting fed bad info from various sources (I believe deliberately to discredit his other work).

    I have O. Ed Wagners book on my shelf and started reading it early on in my research, but set it aside for a later date due to the highly technical and specialized nature of the material. At that point I didn't have a larger framework to help interpret the material in a larger context, but at this point in my research and due to this video bringing it back to the forefront I'm putting it near the front of my reading list again.

    Be sure to check out Dale Pond and Theo Pajimans on John Worrel Keely if you want to run down that rabbit hole.

    From the sound of things at the end expect him to move to Grebennikov and Schauberger shortly and start to put things into context with the cosmic orgone/chi/torsion flows and the shift our planet is experiencing due to the change in "cosmic weather" in this respect taking place due to the earth's motion relative to the rest of the galaxy. I will be touching on this in the mind episode which will be coming in several months due to personal reasons.

    Thanks for sharing the video and if anyone else is interested in watching this, do it tonight as the link expires tomorrow morning.
     
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    David Wilcock discusses gravity from Keely's etheric perspective (though he uses the alternate Aether spelling which according to Dale Pond was more the mind than energy realm).

    https://divinecosmos.com/books-free...hapter-08-keely-and-the-physics-of-vibration/

    Keely’s biggest contributions to our “consciousness unit ” theories relate to how the aether creates and maintains a CU. The first principle is that within each CU or luminous sphere of aether, there are three forces — the contracting force that we call gravity, an out-pressing force that we might call “levity” or anti-gravity and the stabilizing force that balances out the first two.

    These ideas are simply the end products of studying and observing the behaviors of vibration. So, if you picture a spherical balloon that is constantly inflating and deflating with air, you can see this in action:

    1. Each contraction or shrinking of the balloon would be what Keely called the “tractor” force, akin to gravity. Outside air pressure contracts the balloon towards the center.
    2. Each expansion of the balloon would be the “pressor” force, where the center pushes outward against the surrounding air pressure, akin to “levity ” or anti-gravity.
    3. A stabilizing force not unlike the balloon skin itself, which balances out and equalizes the vibrations, would be called the “dominant.”
     
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    With the departure of David Wilcock from the platform, I've decided to share my access to GAIA's platform, since I'm not using it that much. There's lots of old goodies available. Maybe it would benefit curious minds out there. Enjoy

    username/email: enjoypolo[at]gmail.com
    key: Highersidechats333
     
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    I saw that shit. Electron transfer from nitrogen my ass. Works in a vacuum, with no ablation of the electrode - 'nuff said.
     
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    I would love to have Nassim Haramein be on THC one day. Him particularly, but not limited to.
    Slowly, but surely.
     
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    Have you guys seen this:
    https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/d436/f39ac992cb61d578ec5851c5407ffaada21d.pdf

    It's a scientific paper written by ROBERT L. FORWARD about how there is a gravitational analogy to Maxwell's equations of electricity and magnetism. He talks about the gravitational equivalent of the magnetic field in the paper. It's not like gravity; rather, it deflects mass proportional to the relative velocity of the mass, and it's created by a circulating mass current just like a magnetic field is created by a circulating electric current. If the circulating mass is bent into a toroid it creates a gravitational dipole though which could be used for a spaceship drive.
     
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    https://patents.google.com/patent/US20060145019A1/en

    I saw this on another thread. It's a patent application for a triangular spacecraft from 2006, here is a juicy bit from the end: "4. To create, by claims (2.3), an interaction of the electrostatic field (2) with the electromagnetic wave (3) such that a combined spacetime curvature pressure is generated on the hull in the upward and forward direction to produce lift and propulsion respectively."
     
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    At a quick glance over this material i found several topics that i have been following a long time...

    But one question still scape me totally:
    How to deal with the inertia of the bodies inside a craft doing "insane" accelerations ?

    Also, all this only make sense with Zero Point (Free) Energy. Right ?
     
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    Ttsoares - Thomas Townsend Brown and Grebbenikov both described it like being a self-contained reference frame with regard to inertia. Essentially you generate a "warp-bubble" or a pocket of etheric flow that insulates you from the inertia of rest of the universe. Grebbenikov also said it bent light around you once the field strength was high enough.

    [​IMG]

    Zero point power is not absolutely necessary, I believe most of the prototype NAZI craft used fossil fuels and conventional powerplants to run their electrogravitics at the beginning, but obviously all the benefits of zero point energy would be of great use for interplanetary or interstellar journeys
     
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    Man... can you explain inertia ?

    I could produce a ZPF generator with enough money.... But "zero inertia" is beyond me.
     
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    Inertia = etheric entrainment.
     
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    After had watched the video:

    Water is not a good analogy. Suffice to say that Victor Schauberger demonstrated that fish can move upstream of a flow of water with almost any effort, using what he describe as "anti gravity", of something like this.

    The Ether is a flow of stuff, it is not at rest. And it is "made" of an infinite range of frequencies. From zero Hertz until infinite Hertz. Some of that stuff do interact with regular matter as it was made of particles...

    Inertia of rest seems to be easier to figure, as a "drag" in the Ether. But inertia of movement still baffles me !

    One way could to see is like a wing interacts with air to generates lift. Behind a moving object there is a "low pressure" of Ether and this results in a "force" in the direction of the movement...
     
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/25/technology/automation-davos-world-economic-forum.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

    I was reading this NYT piece on some of the agenda discussed at the elite's WEF at Davos. Nothing new, the fact that ubiquitous automation is coming, and planned by the wealthy. But one interesting point was made, regarding the utility of re-training employees skills, so that Amazon warehouse workers could work in the medical industry and aviation mechanics.

    Of course, Jeff Bezos other lesser-known crown jewel is his invovlement in space exploration with his company Blue Origin (as his trips to the southern tip of Argentina seem to suggest), so it'd be a smart move for him to use Amazon, a CIA-funded private entity, become a proxy to enter the MIC workforce: Big Pharma and Defense companies.

    PS: I didn't mean to hijack this thread, just thought it may be tangentially related to electrogravitics (ie, Antarctica) ;)
     
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